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Dallas Police Department Lee Harvey Oswald Interview Interrogation statements.

Secret Service Forrest V. Sorrels
Mr. STERN - That is Saturday, the 23d?
Mr. SORRELS - Yes, sir; I sat in on part of an interview with him, with Captain Fritz. And then, again, on Sunday the 24th, just before he was shot.
Mr. STERN - Did the question of counsel come up again--that is, a lawyer for Oswald?
Mr. SORRELS - Yes. During the interview with Captain Fritz, when I was in there, he mentioned the fact that he wanted to get a man by the name of Abt, or some similar name like that. I never had heard of him before. Apt, or some similar name.
And Captain Fritz said, "Well you can use the phone and you can call him."
Mr. STERN - When was this?
Mr. SORRELS - That was Saturday morning. And it is my understanding that Oswald did attempt to reach this man on the phone.
Mr. STERN - But you didn't observe it?
Mr. SORRELS - I did not observe that; no.
Mr. STERN - Did you hear him mention at any time a lawyer from the American Civil Liberties Union?
Mr. SORRELS - Yes. He said if he could not get this man--I wish I could remember his name a very short name, Apt or something like that.
Mr. STERN - A-b-t?
Mr. SORRELS - Yes, A-b-t. Yes--if he couldn't get him, he wanted a lawyer supplied by the Civil Liberties Union.
Mr. STERN - What else occurred at the interview on Saturday that you can remember?
Mr. SORRELS - He was questioned abut the rifle, because, at that time, as I recall it, it had been determined that the rifle had been purchased from Kleins in Chicago, and shipped to a person using the name of A. Hidell. And he was questioned by Captain Fritz along those lines. And he denied that the rifle was his. He denied knowing or using the name of A. Hidell, or Alek Hidell.
He was, of course, questioned about his background and he at that time still maintained an arrogant, defiant attitude. The questions were, of course, directed towards getting information. A lot of them he would not answer. And a lot of the answers, of course, were apparent falsehoods.
And he gave me the impression of lying to Captain Fritz, and deliberately doing so, maybe with an attempt to get Captain Fritz to become angered, because he, Oswald, would flare up in an angry manner from time to time.

FBI  James W. Bookhout,
Mr. STERN - When did you next see Oswald?
Mr. BOOKHOUT - Well, it would be on the morning of November 23, 1963, in the homicide and robbery bureau.
Mr. STERN - This was another interrogation?
Mr. BOOKHOUT - Yes.
Mr. STERN - Conducted by Captain Fritz?
Mr. BOOKHOUT - That's correct.
Mr. STERN - Do you recall who else was present, and you may refer any time to your reports to refresh your recollection.
Mr. BOOKHOUT - All right; that will be the interrogation that was in the presence of myself, T. J. Kelley of the U.S. Secret Service, David B. Grant U.S. Secret Service, Robert I. Nash, U.S. marshal, and Detectives Billy L. Senkel and Fay M. Turner from the homicide and robbery bureau, Dallas Police Department. This interview was conducted, primarily, by Captain Fritz.
Mr. STERN - Did you ask any questions in the course of this interview?
Mr. BOOKHOUT - Yes.
Mr. STERN - What were they, and what were the responses, if you recall?
Mr. BOOKHOUT - One specific question was with regard to the selective service card in the possession of Oswald bearing a photograph of Oswald and the name Alek James Hidell. Oswald admitted he carried this selective service card, but declined to state that he wrote the signature of Alek J. Hidell appearing on same. Further declined to state the purpose of carrying same, and---or any use he made of same.
Mr. STERN - Did Oswald say anything in the course of this interview with regard to obtaining a lawyer?
Mr. BOOKHOUT - Yes, it was in this interview that he mentioned he wanted to contact Attorney Abt [spelling] A-b-t, New York City. I recall Captain Fritz asked him if he knew Abt personally and he said he did not, but he explained that he knew that Abt had defended the Smith Act cases in 1949, or 1950, and Captain Fritz asked him if he knew how to get ahold of Mr. Abt, and he stated that he did not know what his address was, but he was in New York.
I recall that Captain Fritz explained to him that he would allow him to place a long distance call for Abt, and he explained to Oswald how to ask the long distance operator to trace him down and locate him, even though Oswald didn't even know his address or telephone number.
Mr. STERN - Did he actually make the call in your presence?
Mr. BOOKHOUT - No; he didn't make the call in my presence. The next interview that we had with him, I recall that Captain Fritz asked him if he had been able to contact Mr. Abt. Oswald stated that he had made the telephone call and thanked Captain Fritz for allowing him to make the call, but actually he had not been able to talk to Abt. He wasn't available. Wasn't in his office or something----
Mr. STERN - Was he complaining about not having counsel furnished, or did he seem satisfied with the effort to reach Abt?
Mr. BOOKHOUT - No; he made no complaint about not being furnished an attorney. Actually, there was a good deal of conversation on that point, and he stated that he did not want any Dallas attorney representing him, and said that if he couldn't get in touch with Mr. Abt, that he would probably contact someone with the Civil Liberties Union, and have them furnish an attorney. I recall sometime during November 22 or 23, I believe it was, the head of the Dallas Bar Association appeared at the homicide and robbery bureau and requested permission to talk to Oswald. Captain Fritz gave him that permission, and when he got through talking to Oswald and came back in and told Captain Fritz that he had seen him, and that Oswald did not want anybody from Dallas to represent him.
Mr. STERN - You heard this?
Mr. BOOKHOUT - Yes; that was in my presence. I don't recall the name of the attorney, but I was there at the time or during that conversation.
Mr. STERN - Can you tell us approximately how long this Saturday morning interview took?
Mr. BOOKHOUT - Well, that would be approximately an hour. No interview that I participated in lasted over an hour, and I think roughly this one probably started around 10:35 in the morning and lasted for approximately an hour
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Mr. STERN - Did he seem rested, or tired?
Mr. BOOKHOUT - I saw no difference in his appearance on the 23d than it was on the 22d.
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Mr. BOOKHOUT - He made some comment along the line that it had never been his policy--before, to take a polygraph.
Mr. STERN - But he didn't elaborate on it?
Mr. BOOKHOUT - He didn't elaborate on it.
Mr. STERN - Did he make any further comment at this interview about his interviews with the FBI, or their interviews of his wife?
Mr. BOOKHOUT - I think probably this is the one I referred to a while ago. Yes, it would be in this interview that he made further comment that on the interview of Ruth Paine by the FBI, regarding his wife, that he felt that his wife was intimidated. Also, in this interview that he made mention as previously stated above that he had arrived about July 19, 1962, from Russia, and was interviewed by the FBI at Fort Worth, Tex.
He stated that he felt that they had overstepped their bounds and used various tactics in interviewing him.
Mr. STERN - Did he specify what the tactics were?
Mr. BOOKHOUT - No; he did not.
Mr. STERN - In your report before this interview you mentioned that he again denied shooting President Kennedy, and apparently said that he didn't know until then that Governor Connally had been shot?
Mr. BOOKHOUT - That's correct. That was his statement, that he denied shooting President John F. Kennedy on November 22, 1963, and commented that he did not know that Governor John Connally had been shot.
Mr. STERN - Did you form any impression about whether he was genuinely surprised? Did he look genuinely surprised to you, or how did you feel about that? I am just asking for your impression. If you don't have one, say so.
Mr. BOOKHOUT - No; I have no impression on that. I arrived at no conclusion.
Mr. STERN - What did he say at this interview with respect to the purchase of a rifle, or possession of a rifle?
Mr. BOOKHOUT - Generally, he stated that he didn't own a rifle, hadn't ever made any mail order purchase of one.
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Mr. BOOKHOUT - The interview at about 6:30 p.m., on November 23, 1963.
Mr. STERN - How long did this interview last?
Mr. BOOKHOUT - Not over an hour.
Mr. STERN - Who conducted this interview?
Mr. BOOKHOUT - Captain Fritz.
Mr. STERN - Did you ask any questions, that you recall?
Mr. BOOKHOUT - I don't recall asking any specific questions during this interview.
Mr. STERN - It was at this interview, was it not, that Oswald was shown photographs of himself holding a rifle and wearing a pistol in a holster?
Mr. BOOKHOUT - That's correct.
Mr. STERN - What was his comment about the photograph?
Mr. BOOKHOUT - His comment, as I recall, he was asked if this was his Photograph, and his comment was that the head of the photograph was his, but that it could have been superimposed over the body of someone else. He Pointed out that he had been apparently photographed by news media numerous times in proceeding from the homicide and robbery bureau to the lineup and back, and that is how they probably got the photograph of his face, and he went into a long discussion of how much he knew about photography, and knew that this--his face could be superimposed over somebody else's body holding the gun and pistol and so forth.
Mr. STERN - Now, was his appearance and demeanor at this interview----
Mr. BOOKHOUT - No different than it was during the previous interviews.
Mr. STERN - Did he have any comment at this interview about counsel?
Mr. BOOKHOUT - None other than at the outset of being first asked if that was his photograph, he first made the statement that he wouldn't make any comment about it without the advice of counsel, but then subsequently is when he went into the story about his face had been superimposed over somebody else's body.
Mr. STERN - Did he complain in the course of this interview about the way in which the lineup had been conducted?
Mr. BOOKHOUT - This is the interview in which he--a previously mentioned comment here was made to the effect that he had not been granted a request to put on a jacket similar to those worn by some of the other individuals in some previous lineups.
Mr. STERN - In each of these interviews was he generally taken through the same questions or similar questions, or were the interviews addressed to different areas?
Mr. BOOKHOUT - More or less, they had been to a specific area. For instance, in this last interview we are talking about, that was more or less confined to this photograph.
Mr. STERN - Yes. Did he ever complain that, "We have been over that ground before," or make any such statement?
Mr. BOOKHOUT - No; I don't recall anything along that line, but I can recall one subject matter probably in the first interview where he talked about his method of transportation after leaving the Texas Book Depository, having gotten on a bus, and then that subject was taken up again, as I recall, in the second interview, expressed the same answer at that time, and then subsequently to that interview he backed up and said that it wasn't actually true as to how he got home. That he had taken a bus, and due to the traffic jam he had left the bus and got a taxicab, by which means he actually arrived at his residence.
Mr. STERN - Had he been confronted by the driver of the taxicab, or been told that they had located the driver of the taxicab before he changed his story, or did he volunteer the story of the taxi?
Mr. BOOKHOUT - I don't recall specifically whether he was confronted with that or not.
Mr. STERN - All right. Do you recall whether in the course of any of the interrogations any official, anyone present suggested in any way to Oswald that things would be better for him if he told the truth, if he confessed? Was he ever offered any inducement--any suggestion made that he would be better off if he told the full story?
Mr. BOOKHOUT - I can't recall anything along that line. I don't recall any type of inducement whatsoever.
Mr. STERN - In each interview in which you participated, did you warn him about the possible use of his statement against him?
Mr. BOOKHOUT - I personally did not at each interview, but I can say that at each interview he was warned. He was warned numerous times by Captain Fritz and his rights were fully explained to him.
Mr. STERN - What sort of warning would Captain Fritz give him, generally?
Mr. BOOKHOUT - He gave a warning consisting of the fact that he did not have to make any statement, that any statement he made could be used against him in court, and he had the right to consult with an attorney, generally, that was the rights that were explained to him, as I recall.
Mr. STERN - This was said at each session at which you were present?
Mr. BOOKHOUT - This was given at once each time, and the question would come up later on, I mean, he would repeat himself, that, you don't have to make any statement--and so forth.
Mr. STERN - Did you observe anytime any physical or mental coersion of Oswald by anyone?
Mr. BOOKHOUT - None whatsoever.
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I took a seat adjacent to this glass area in the office proper of the homicide and robbery bureau, and watched Oswald during the interview that was going on. About--well, I don't know what time specifically, it was after 11 o'clock, as I recall, the interview terminated. I asked Captain Fritz if he had--if Oswald made any admissions, and he stated that he had not made any. Shortly thereafter he was taken out of the homicide and robbery bureau. I remained in the homicide office.

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