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The JFK Witnesses, Eyewitnesses Witness near Elm and Houston Dalllas Dealey Plaza(TSBD) Testimony Accounts:

Some of the people near the corner of Elm and Houston St. would become witnesses to a shooter in the Dallas Texas School Book Depository Building.

witness Howard L. Brennan, a construction worker who was on the corner across from the front of the School Depository Building.
Brennan Testified that While he was waiting for the President to arrive, he noticed a man at the southeast corner window of the sixth floor, and observed him leave the window a couple of times. Soon after the President’s car passed, he heard an explosion like the backfire of a motorcycle. He glanced up at the Depository Building and the man he had previously seen was aiming for his last shot.
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Possibly Brennan.

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< Warren Report >  witness Howard L. BRENNAN.
BRENNAN. I stayed around a couple of minutes. There was a man having an epileptic fit, a possibility of 20 yards east--south of this corner. And they were being attended by some civilians and officers, and I believe an ambulance picked him up.
BELIN. All right.
Mr. BRENNAN. And I walked over to this retainer wall of this little park pool and jumped up on the top ledge.
BELIN. What were you wearing on November 22d? What clothes were you wearing?
BRENNAN. Gray khaki work clothes, with a dark gray hard helmet.
BELIN. Mr. Brennan, could you please tell the Commission what happened from the time you sat on that retaining wall, what you saw?
BRENNAN. Well, I was more or less observing the crowd and the people in different building windows, including the fire escape across from the Texas Book Store on the east side of the Texas Book Store, and also the Texas Book Store Building windows. I observed quite a few people in different windows. In particular, I saw this one man on the sixth floor which left the window to my knowledge a couple of times.
BELIN. Did you see any other people in any other windows that you can recollect?
BRENNAN. Not on that floor. There was no other person on that floor that ever came to the window that I noticed. There were people on the next floor down, which is the fifth floor, colored guys. In particular, I only remember two that I identified.
BRENNAN. Well, then something, just right after this explosion, made me think that it was a firecracker being thrown from the Texas Book Store. And I glanced up. And this man that I saw previous was aiming for his last shot.
BELIN. Would you describe just exactly what you saw when you saw him this last time?
BRENNAN. Well, as it appeared to me he was standing up and resting against the left window sill, with gun shouldered to his right shoulder, holding the gun with his left hand and taking positive aim and fired his last shot. As I calculate a couple of seconds. He drew the gun back from the window as though he was drawing it back to his side and maybe paused for another second as though to assure hisself that he hit his mark, and then he disappeared.
And, at the same moment, I was diving off of that firewall and to the right for bullet protection of this stone wall that is a little higher on the Houston side.
BELIN. Well, let me ask you. What kind of a gun did you see in that window?
BRENNAN. I am not an expert on guns. It was, as I could observe, some type of a high-powered rifle.
BELIN. Could you tell whether or not it had any kind of a scope on it?
BRENNAN. I did not observe a scope.
BELIN. Could you describe the man you saw in the window on the sixth floor?
BRENNAN. To my best description, a man in his early thirties, fair complexion, slender but neat, neat slender, possibly 5-foot 10.
BELIN. About what weight?
BRENNAN. Oh, at--I calculated, I think, from 160 to 170 pounds.
BELIN. A white man?
BELIN. Do you remember what kind of clothes he was wearing?
BRENNAN. Light colored clothes, more of a khaki color.
BELIN. Do you remember the color of his hair?
BELIN. Now, I believe you said that after the last shot you jumped off this masonry structure on which you were sitting. Why did you jump off?
BRENNAN. Well, it occurred to me that there might be more than one person, that it was a plot which could mean several people, and I knew beyond reasonable doubt that there were going to be bullets flying from every direction.

Mr. BELIN. Now, taking you down to the Dallas Police Station ***
Mr. BELIN. All right. Did you see anyone in the lineup you recognized?
Mr. BELIN. And what did you say?
Mr. BRENNAN. "I told Mr. Sorrels and Captain Fritz at that time that Oswald--or the man in the lineup that I identified looking more like a closest resemblance to the man in the window than anyone in the lineup."
Mr. BELIN. Were the other people in the lineup, do you remember--were they all white, or were there some Negroes in there, or what?
Mr. BRENNAN. I do not remember.
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 witness Amos Lee EUINS:

 A 15-year-old, he was facing the Depository as the motorcade turned the corner. He stated he saw this pipe thing sticking out the window. When the first shot was fired, I started looking around, thinking it was a backfire. Everybody else started looking around. Then I looked up at the window, and he shot again. The man had one hand on the barrel and the other on the trigger. Euins believed that there were four shots.
< Warren Commission.> EUINS:
Mr. EUINS. The man in the window. I could see his hand, and I could see his other hand on the trigger, and one hand was on the barrel thing.
Mr. EUINS. I seen a bald spot on this man's head, trying to look out the window. He had a bald spot on his head. I was looking at the bald spot. I could see his hand, you know the rifle laying across in his hand. And I could see his hand sticking out on the trigger part. And after he got through, he just pulled it back in the window.
Mr. EUINS. No, sir. You see, I come from point B, and ran here, and told the policeman I had seen the shot, because they were looking at the railroad tracks. So he put me on the cycle and he went to here.
Mr. EUINS. The Book Depository Building.
Then he called some more cars. They got all the way around the building. And then after that, well, he seen another man. Another man told him he seen a man run out the back.
Mr. SPECTER. Do you know who that man was who said somebody ran out the back?
Mr. EUINS. No, sir. He was a construction man working back there.
Mr. SPECTER. Were you there when the man talked about somebody running out the back?
Mr. EUINS. Yes, sir. He said the man had--he said he had kind of bald spot on his head. And he said the man come back there.
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witness Mrs. CAROLYN WALTHER was standing on the east side of Houston Street, about 50 or 60 feet south of the south curb of Elm Street she looked up at the windows of the Texas School Book Depository and saw a man in the southeast corner window of the fourth or fifth floor

Mrs. Walther saw the man was holding a rifle in his hands; the barrel of the rifle was pointing downward and the man was looking toward Houston Street.(13) Both his hands were extended across the window ledge.(14) She described the man as having light brown or blond hair and wearing a white shirt.(15) She described the rifle as having a short barrel and being possibly a machine gun. She noticed no other features of the rifle

Mrs. Walther said also that she saw at the same time a second man standing in the same window to the left of the man with the rifle.(17) This man was wearing a brown suit coat; she could only see his body from the waist to the shoulders and his head was hidden by part of the window.

JFK Assassination Eyewitnesses - Arnold Louis ROWLAND
testified before the Warren Commission that he and his wife standing near the corner of Houston and Main Streets at the time of the motorcade. Rowland said that at about 12:15 p.m. he looked up at the Texas Book Depository and saw a man in a sixth floor window in the west corner of the building holding a rifle.

in a sixth floor window in the west corner of the building holding a rifle. The man was standing back from the window. Rowland described the rifle as a "fairly high-powered rifle" with scope. He thought it might have been a .30 size six rifle. Rowland said he noted also that two windows were open where he saw the man standing. According to Rowland, the man was holding the rifle in a "port arms" military position

In an FBI interview on November 23, 1963, Rowland was quoted as saying that the window in which he saw the man with the rifle was in the southwest corner of the sixth floor, which is nearest the overpass on Elm Street. That report contains the description of the man as wearing a light-colored shirt and the rifle as being a .306 with a telescopic sight. Rowland said he was not close enough to identify the man and could not say if it was Lee Harvey Oswald.

Deputy Sheriff Roger Craig stated that soon after the assassination of the afternoon of November 22, 1963, Rowland gave him a description of two men in sixth floor windows of the depository before the assassination.

Deputy Sheriff Roger Creig testified:
I talked to a young couple and the boy said he saw two men on the-uh-sixth floor of the Book Depository Building over there; one of them had a rifle with the telescopic sight on it-but he thought they were Secret Service agents on guard and didn't report it. This was about-uh-oh, he said, 15 minutes before the motorcade ever arrived.(58)

Craig said he remembered the boy's name to be Arnold Rowland.(59) He said the conversation with Rowland took place about 10 minutes after the shots were fired at the motorcade.(60) Rowland told him that the man with the rifle was located on the west end of the depository in the second window from the corner.(61)

Rowland also told him that the two men were "walking back and forth" on the sixth floor.(62) Rowland related that when he looked back a few minutes later, only the man with the rifle remained.(63) He was holding it at his side and looking out the window in a southerly direction.(64) Craig said Rowland's wife said she had not seen the men.(65) Craig also said that at the time he talked to Rowland, there had not yet been a report that the shots had come from the depository.(66) In fact, Craig testified that he had a first assisted officers searching in the area of the railroad tracks before he returned to the area of the depository building to talk to witnesses.(67)

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Richard Randolph CARR stated to the FBI on January 4, 1964, that he saw a man looking out of a window on the top floor of the depository a few minutes before Carr heard shots.(99) He described the man as white, wearing a hat, tan sport coat and glasses

During his testimony at the Clay Shaw trial, Carr also reported seeing men in Dealey Plaza at the time of the assassination who were not mentioned in the report of his FBI interview in January 1964. Carr was asked during the Shaw trial if he noticed any movement after the shots which seemed "unusual."(110) Carr then said that he saw a Rambler station wagon with a rack on top parked on the wrong side of the street, heading north and facing in the direction of the railroad tracks, next to the depository.

Carr said that immediately after the shots he saw three men emerge from behind the depository and enter the station wagon.(112) He gave a description of one of them: he was "real dark-complected" and appeared to be Spanish or Cuban; he drove the car away, going north on Houston Street.

During the Shaw trial testimony, Carr said he had reported this information to law enforcement officers and that someone had told him not to repeat this information.(114) At that point, defense counsel objected to hearsay by carr, and no further details were elicited about the reported coercion of Carr, other than his statement that he did what the FBI told him to do, "I shut my mouth."

When Richard Randolph Carr testified in the Kennedy assassination conspiracy trial of Colay Shaw in New Orleans on February 19, 1969, he stated that heard a shot and then three more shots in succession at the time of the assassination.(341) When asked if he could tell where the shots came from, Carr replied that "the last three" came from behind the picket fence located at the top of the grassy knoll, and that one of the shots "knocked a bunch of grass up"; he could tell by the way the grass was "knocked up" that the bullet came from that area.(342) Trying further to pin down the supposed location of the shots he heard, Carr stated that the sound came from the end of the cement arcade at the top of the knoll which was closest to the underpass.
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The JFK Eyewitnesses Witnesses On the other end of the plaza near the railroad bridge:.



Bystander James T. Tague who was Standing near the railroad overpass and on the medium was Stuck in the face by either cement particles or bullet fragments. when a bullet had struck the nearby curb,
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In testimony before the Warren commission on July 22, 1964, James Thomas Tague of Dallas stated that at the time of the Presidential motorcade, he was located near his car at the bridge abutment of the triple underpass.(328) Tague said that during the shots he felt something sting him on the cheek; after the shots, a policeman noticed that Tague had blood on his cheek.

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witness Austin L. Miller, employed by the Texas-Louisiana Freight Bureau, heard three shots and thought that they came from the area of the Presidential limousine itself.
< Warren Commission.> Austin L. MILLER:
 I and Roy Shelton who works with me was standing on the Tripple Underpass bridge with a large group of people watching the Presidential Motorcade. I saw a Convertable automobile turn West on Elm off Houston Street. It had preceeded about halfway from Houston Street to the underpass when I heard what sounded like a shot a short second two were sharp reports. A man in the back seat slumped over and a woman in bright collored dress (Orange or Yellow) grabbed the man and yelled. One shot apparently hit the street past the car. I saw something which I thought was smoke or steam coming from a group of trees north of Elm off the Railroad tracks. I did not see anyone on the tracks or in the trees. A large group of people concreated and a motorcycle officer dropped his motor and took off on foot to the car.
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JFK Assassination Eyewitnesses - Royce G. SKELTON, one of Miller’s coworkers, thought he heard four shots, but could not tell their exact source.

JFK Assassination Eyewitnesses - Frank E. REILLY, an electrician for the Union Terminal Co, heard three shots which seemed to come from the trees "on the north side of Elm Street at the corner up there."

JFK Assassination Eyewitnesses - S. M. HOLLAND, there were four shots which sounded as though they came from the trees on the north side of Elm street where he saw a puff of smoke. Holland also indicated that the second and third or the third and forth shot's where vary close together. After the shots, Holland ran off the overpass to see if there was anyone behind the picket fence on the north side of Elm Street, but he did not see anyone among the parked cars.

JFK Assassination Eyewitnesses - Thomas J. MURPHY, a mail foreman for the Union Terminal Co., heard two shots and said that they came from a spot just west of the Depository.

In an interview latter these railroad workers would state. " We all three seen, four seen about the same thing." - "At the time I didn’t know what it was but it sounded like a loud firecracker or a gun-shot, and it sounded like it came from the left and in front of us, towards the wooden fences. And there was a puff of smoke."
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In a Dallas County Sheriff's Department notarized statement dated November 22, 1963,

JFK Assassination Eyewitnesses -  Austin Lawrence MILLER
stated that at the time he heard three shots and saw people in the Presidential limousine react, he saw "something which I thought was smoke or steam coming from a group of trees north of Elm off the railroad tracks."(356) At that time, Miller was standing on the bridge of the triple underpass.(357) Miller said he did not see anyone in the area of the railroad tracks.

In an FBI interview on March 17, 1964,
JFK Assassination witnesses -  Clemon Earl JOHNSON
, of Dallas, stated that he saw smoke near the pavillion at the time of the shots.(360) according to the FBI interview report, Johnson told the FBI that he believed the smoke came from a motorcycle, which was abandoned near the spot by a Dallas policeman.(361) At the time of the shots, Johnson was located on the Elm Street viaduct overlooking the Presidential motorcade.

  1. In testimony before the Warren Commission on April 8, 1964,
    witness S.M. HOLLAND
    stated that he was employed by the Union Terminal Railroad at the time of the assassination and was located in the middle of the overpass at the time of the Presidential motorcade.(363) Holland stated that between the third and fourth shots, he saw smoke rising from the trees located at the top of the knoll:

    There was a shot, a report, I don't know whether it was a shot. I can't say that. And a puff of smoke came out about 6 or 8 feet above the ground right out from under those trees. And at Just about this location from where I was standing you could see that puff of smoke, like someone had thrown a fire-cracker, or something out, and that is just the way it sounded. It wasn't loud as the previous reports or shots.(364)


  2. In a report to the sheriff's department on November 22, 1963, Holland had also reported seeing the puff of smoke at the time of the shots. Nevertheless, in that statement, Holland placed the time of the puff of smoke as coinciding the first "noise":

    * * *when they got just about to the Arcade I heard what I thought for the moment was a firecracker and he slumped over and I looked over toward the arcade and trees and saw a puff of smoke come from the trees and I heard three more shots after the first shot but that was the only puff of smoke I saw. I immediately ran around to where I could see behind the arcade and did not see anyone running from there. But puff of smoke I saw definitely came from behind the arcade through the trees.(365)


  3. witness James L. SIMMONS, of Dallas, reported to the FBI that from his location on the Commerce Street Viaduct (*SAME*) he saw "exhaust fumes or smoke" near the embankment in front of the depository building.(366) In the FBI interview on March 17, 1964, Simmons said that after the shots he saw a policeman jump off his motorcycle and run up the hill of the knoll toward the Memorial Arches.(367) It is not clear from the report if Simmons was describing the smoke as coming from the motorcycle or someplace else.


  4. witness Nolan H. POTTER was also employed by the Union Terminal Co. at the time of the assassination and was with Simmons at the time of the shots.(368) In an FBI interview on March 17, 1964, Potter said that he heard three shots, saw the President slump over in his car, and that he also saw smoke in front of the depository, which was rising from the trees.(369) Potter gave no other details about the location of the smoke. in the interview, Potter also mentioned seeing the policeman leave his motorcycle and run up the knoll,(370) but he did not describe the smoke as being in the area of the motorcycle.

Based on the statements of these witnesses, if the smoke they reported was in fact the result of gunfire, it would have originated in the area of the top of the grassy knoll. There is no way of determining what type of ammunition was used in that "gunfire" so that is can be stated conclusively whether the smoke seen by the witnesses is consistent with smoke produced by the type of ammunition used in any gunfire from the knoll. Nevertheless, a firearms expert engaged by the committee explained that irrespective of the exact type of ammunition used, it would be possible for witnesses to have seen smoke if a gun had been fired from that arena.
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witness Lee E. Bowers, working in the Railroad tower behind the knoll.

Bowers heard three shots, which sounded as though they came either from the Depository Building or near the mouth of the Triple Underpass.
But In an interview with Mark Lane, Bowers stated "There was some unusual occurrence a flash of light or smoke or something which caused me to feel that something out of the ordinary had occurred there."

Prior to November 22, 1963, Bowers had noted the similarity of the sounds coming from the vicinity of the Depository and those from the Triple Underpass, which he attributed to " a reverberation, which takes place from either location.

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Lee E. Bowers, Jr., reported to the FBI after the assassination on November 22, 1963, that he had observed three cars parked in the lot west of the depository building before the assassination. He said the first arrived at about 11:55 a.m.; it was a 1959 Oldsmobile station wagon, blue over white, with an out-of-State license plate consisting of six black numbers on a white background.(165) He noted that the car was extremely dirty.(166) There was one white male in it, who Bowers said could have been middle aged.(167) the second car arrived at about 12:15 p.m.(168) It was a 1957 Ford Tudor, black with a gold stripe on the sides, and had a Texas license plate.(169) Bowers said he thought the man in that second car was a police officer because he was talking into a radio telephone or radio transmitter in the car.
( Lee Bowers was in the union Railroad toware behind the grassy knoll. )

Bowers testified that at the time of the motorcade on November 22, he was located in the Union Terminal Tower in the railroad yard.(182) When asked what people he noticed standing between the tower and Elm Street at the underpass on the high ground, Bowers stated that he saw two man standing within 10 or 15 feet of each other.(183) One of them was middle aged, heavy set, and was wearing a white shirt and dark trousers.(184) The other man was in his mid-twenties, wearing either a plaid shirt or a plaid jacket.(185) Bowers said those two men were directly in his line of vision toward the mouth of the underpass and appeared to be watching the progress of the motorcade.(186) Bowers said he saw the man in the white shirt standing there at the time of the shots, but that he could not see the younger man in the plaid clothing because of the trees, which made him harder to distinguish.
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Later a friend of Lee Bowers, Walter Risehel said that Bowers confided to him that he had seen a car pull up, two men got out and were carrying what appeared to be rifles, one man positioned himself on the bumper of a car and fired, And he saw the smoke. 


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From the Autopsy Section, :
Mr. SPECTER. What did you observe as to President Kennedy's condition on arrival at the hospital?
Mr. HILL. "The right rear portion of his head was missing. It was lying in the rear seat of the car"

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a substantial majority of the witnesses stated that the shots were not evenly spaced. Most witnesses recalled that the second and third shots were bunched together.
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